Nicolas Krupp Contemporary Art
Studien zur Entstehung einer Ungeduld. Monumental canvases seduce the innocent eye, only to shock it with their stormy ideas and concepts - catapulting viewers from their comfort zone.
In the last two years, German painter Michael Kunze has let the wider public in on his
striking talent. Working from his Berlin studio, he has created complex, rich and powerful
paintings that are as mysterious and surprising as the artist himself. Monumental canvases
seduce the innocent eye, only to shock it with their stormy ideas and concepts - catapulting
viewers from their comfort zone.
Marta Gnyp: I have visited your studio several times over the years. What has always surprised
me is your enormous energy and fantasy; you are able to create something new every time,
despite working with the traditional medium of paint, which was declared dead in the 80s.
What made it survive for you, and why is it such an important medium?
Michael Kunze: Like so often in life, one can say here that every disadvantage has its
advantage. An anachronistic medium like painting is up to date when one brings this
anachronism into the spotlight instead of hiding it. The more digital our world becomes, the
more interesting it is. Also important for understanding our actual position is to penetrate
the internal structures of an analogue procedure through which we use to understand and
recognize our world in the past. The history of this analogue construction of the image is
very long and complicated. Therefore, if you use this old medium today - and by doing so, if
you refer to this whole historically-embedded concept of painting - you can get the most
intense and surprising results. In this way, the old medium becomes a sort of corrective of
the new media.
MG: In the last 20 years, we have seen the revival of German painters such as Leipziger and
Dresdner Schule. Can we discuss the Berliner Schule?
MK: Since then, there have been so many artists and people from all over the world involved
in art in Berlin that a unique style cannot exist anymore. The more heterogeneous the scene,
the better for artists and for spectators. The spectator can follow his own instincts to judge
what he sees and what he considers worth seeing; he doesn’t have to rely on the prevalent
discourse for making his own choices.
MG: How important is it for you as an artist to live in Berlin?
MK: It is a good place for exchanging opinions.
MG: Why did you become an artist?
MK: I began by studying art history and literature at university. But after a while, it was like I
was walking without exactly looking at which direction I was going. So I changed sides and
continued the walk by making art. From that moment on, I started to construct the sort of
images I’m still working on.
MG: You seem to be interested in the ancient roots of our Western culture. How 'German' is your
painting?
MK: One can distinguish two ways in the western culture: One, the Anglo-Saxon way with all
the well-known, pop-cultural superficialities and its pragmatic and positivist adaptations
that largely determine our contemporary world. The other, Euro-continental way is more
difficult, more hidden, almost forgotten in large parts of our daily life. But here, we find a
complicatedly connected reservoir of idealistic, metaphysical and doubtful approaches that
call positive phenomena into question by plenty of 'negativist' (not in a moral sense!),
fantastic, sometimes also dangerous propositions. Here, the culture is more a 'high' thing -
a confusing challenge and not a popular and entertaining attitude. It’s clear that my interest
lies in this second, Euro-continental way. And for sure, the German contribution to Western
culture is to be found in this second way as well. Everything that has been interesting
coming from Germany in the last 200 years has been difficult and complicated. Pop, however
- the famous five minutes of fame proposed by Warhol - is an Anglo-Saxon invention and
the complete opposite of Hegel, Nietzsche and Heidegger. Perhaps both sides need each
other.
MG: Your interest in hidden, less popular paths resounds in your theory about modernism in the
visual arts as well. There is one path that became official history of modernism - from Cezanne
through the avant-gardes of the 20s and neo-avant-gardes of the 60s. And the other path
starting with Böcklin through De Chirico, Balthus - the outsiders of the mainstream concerned
with the image - to the film works by Antonioni, Bergman or Pasolini. The last path has no
central clear concept: there is no progress in the development of this line; it is more like a
labyrinth. You seem to be especially interested in this second shadow line of modernism, why?
MK: In this shadow-line of modernism lies all the motifs and historical references that
present another image of the world other than the mainstream modernity we are
accustomed to. It’s a sort of anti-modern modernity, a dark but rich and large cloud, from
Nietzsche’s tragedy studies to Lars von Trier’s Antichrist. And the more we can discover of this
confusing context, the more we can also understand the apparent 'light-line' that is often
based on errors and contradictions about which nobody is allowed to talk.
MG: Do you think that the dark and irrational side of man says more about the human condition
than rational conscious thinking?
MK: I’m not sure if the opposition rational-irrational is still usable today. It is one of the
errors I just mentioned. Although many had tried to correct this wrong opposition - from
Greek antiquity though Hölderlin to Nietzsche, to mention a few, it remains a challenge for
us to find this track again. We need to reflect over the boundaries and limits of concepts that
are too comfortable and can easily deceive us.
MG: You construct strange images with their own logic, breathtaking perspectives, flying objects,
swirling figures. You make huge architectonic landscape paintings in which one can lose
himself. Your architecture seems to hide many secrets that we can sense but never truly see.
Where does your inspiration come from?
MK: All these aspects refer to the historical roots of the aforementioned distinction. For me,
nothing is real and as certain as one thinks it seems to be. Progress can be understood as an
illusion if one realizes that the exit from a labyrinth is always a construction. The big
simulation-machine wherein we live makes everything that seems to us so near and clear
completely incomprehensible.
MG: In your last series, one of the main topics was the artist in his studio, or actually, the
absence of the artist in his studio. Did you intend to position yourself as an artist and to define
who is the artist today, like the stranger in Pasolini’s Teorema, whose function is to break the
old structures and disclose what is behind?
MK: Although the artist today seems a superfluous person, he can remind us, for example, of
the half-forgotten cultural context I mentioned before. He can make us aware of invisible
absurdities in the simulation-machine and open superfluous windows by a superfluous
medium in a superfluous game. Then suddenly, we can recognize that the endless
perspective which we see on the screen when playing with invented enemies simply
continues the idea of the enormous prison from Piranesi, who went crazy about the
greatness of the antique ruins in Rome. Or goes even further back to Plato’s head or cave.
MG: Did you ever meet a stranger like the one in Teorema, who suddenly pushed your life in a
different direction?
MK: I would say every day you meet such a stranger several times, but normally you don’t
notice him because most of the time he is invisible.
MG: In most of your paintings, there is a kind of signature, a three-legged strange object with a
circle on top. What does it mean and when did you start to use it?
MK: It is a stylized tripod, a device used by photographers or land surveyors that provides a
fixed standing point. The big longing for mankind! You can read it as an ironic quotation
against any possibility to fix the point. And also as a formal gesture - an image of exactness;
an idea of a clear drawing, of a geometric theatre, a small cut or carve in a somehow
disorderly neighborhood.
MG: In some of your series, you painted dark deformed figures - people with Down's Syndrome,
frightening creatures, architectural, monumental landscapes with apocalyptic scenarios. In other
series, there are blue skies, white walls; one can see the beauty of abstraction and sense your
humor: failed utopias and destruction versus optimism. Are you an optimist yourself?
MK: The figures refer to the TV series of Lars von Trier's Kingdom, which partially formed the
context of my series, What is Metaphysics? The architectural scenes were located between the
futuristic memory of antiquity and the totalitarian implications of modernity, in which
function and practicality must be visible. But what we see are only absurd details. And what
starts with a 'roof over the head' ends up as a gigantic cenotaph, where the monumental
aesthetics of a fantastic pagan culture crosses the architecture of war and modern visions of
a new society and mankind, for example the Russian Supremacists. Optimistic? For sure! Like
the monk on the seaside in the famous painting of C.D. Friedrich, or the invisible inhabitant
of Böcklin's Villa am Meer - the more darkness behind, the more hope and confidence in
front.
Image: Cameo 117652, 2012, Oil on canvas, 81 x 65 cm
Opening: Thursday 1 November 2012, 6 pm
Nicolas Krupp
Erlenstrasse 15 , Basel
Hours: Thursday-Saturday from 2 to 6 pm and by appointment
Free Admission